"A man who is empty on the inside must decorate himself on the outside."
Daniel Mookhey is a hoarder of magazines and catches up on long-form journalism during lengthy Legislative Council debates
Daniel Mookhey is the NSW Treasurer. He is 43 and lives in Stanmore, NSW.
You have almost every AFR Magazine Power issue. Could we say it’s your other passion?
That’s probably taking it a bit far. But the Power issue has the best, most concise descriptions of key personalities in Australia. It ends up being a chronicle of the country and how it’s changed. It’s a really good way to track the evolution of Australia. The profiles in AFR Magazine are some of the best magazine writing in the country.
What do you make of ranking people by how powerful they are? Do you think it’s possible?
When I was 20 years old, I thought so. Now I’m a bit older, I guess it’s more of a concept of understanding. The point about a list is that it’s meant to be provocative, it’s meant to start debate; what do we consider to be powerful? Who is powerful? That’s quite useful in terms of our understanding of who deserves accountability.
“I’ve learnt that where culture goes, so goes politics. Bluey made your list once. She’s very powerful. Every parent knows the power of Bluey.”
— Daniel Mookhey
The prime minister has been top of the list almost every year. Fair?
I think that’s accurate, but the power of the PM has fluctuated through the years.
What about in 2021 when we had the state premiers at No. 1?That was pretty spot on. It was a sharp reminder that authority can concentrate, but it can disperse quickly. You look through the Power issues and you see how we’ve had eras; the dominance of John Howard, then the period of instability, and then into recent years where the biggest trend has been the collapse of conservative power figures.
Yes, it was a bit challenging for us when they kept changing prime ministers, sometimes right on our deadline.My favourite edition is the one where you had to run an insert on how the whole list had changed.
[Editor’s note: In 2015 the panel had put Tony Abbott at No. 1 but the day after going to print, he was rolled by Malcolm Turnbull. There was barely time to replace the cover and add an insert that the list had changed.] What do you think about the photography?
You manage to make quite unglamorous people look interesting. My favourite cover is one of John Howard [in 2005]; it’s very inner-sanctum. You guys get good access, so we all get to see more than you ordinarily expect to. I also find the sectoral lists really interesting. They’re useful for us [in politics] to understand the personalities you interact with. It’s an underrated part of your list.
What about the cultural list?I don’t understand culture as well as I understand other parts of society. So I love it because it gives you a guide. I’ve learnt that where culture goes, so goes politics.
Bluey made your list once. She’s very powerful. Every parent knows the power of Bluey.
Is there a quote about power that you draw wisdom from?
Robert Caro’s The Power Broker is the best illustration of power I’ve read. It’s about Robert Moses, who goes from being an unelected bureaucrat to becoming the most powerful man in New York, and all without ever being elected to anything. The real issue is not so much how you get power, but how you use it. And Caro says power reveals; you don’t really understand a person’s character until they have it. While people are climbing, they conceal. And when they get it, they reveal.
You’re powerful – so what does your power reveal about you?
That’s not for me to answer. I hope I have humility. I’m a humble state treasurer who happens to hoard magazines. I do like magazines, I read a lot of long-form journalism and books.
Reading magazines is better than doom-scrolling, isn’t it?
I do that, too. But I have piles of magazines. I have a massive stack of The Atlantic, I subscribed when I was 19, and I still get it in print.
My pile of The New Yorker at home seems to glower at me because I haven’t read them. How do you find the time?
I spend a lot of time serving the [NSW] Legislative Council. You’d be surprised how much you can get through while your colleagues are expressing their views.
All the Ways Reading for Pleasure is Good for Your Mental Health
Nautilus: “Even though it might be a dying pastime. With our attention splintered into a million pieces by digital distractions, it’s no surprise that reading for pleasure has fallen off in recent years.
Social media, video, and other forms of “content” are eating reading’s lunch, and it’s not particularly close. And so, it’s easy to forget that reading for fun is… fun. Now a new review published in Psychological Medicineis offering a reminder of all the ways reading for pleasure can benefit your mental health, too. According to data from the National Literacy Trust, reading for pleasure may be at its lowest level ever recorded with the deepest plunges among children and adolescents.
It’s a shame because, according to the researchers, young people reap some of the greatest rewards from reading. For example, a longitudinal study of more than 10,000 young adolescents found that reading for pleasure was associated with improved attention, memory, and executive functioning, not to mention better mental health, more sleep, and less screen time. Many of these benefits seem to be independent of the kids’ socioeconomic backgrounds (an important factor because reading for fun can also be free).
“Reading is a great way to support our brain health, develop important cognitive skills, and boost our wellbeing,” study author Barbara Sahakian of the University of Cambridge explained in a statement. “It’s something we ought to be encouraging from an early age, given the increasing evidence of its benefits, particularly to children.” Per the team, developing reading habits during this critical developmental period may also lead to changes in the brain.
Children between the ages of 8 and 13 with strong reading skills showed greater integrity in their white matter, the neural connective tissue of the brain that facilitates communication between different regions. In a small study of dyslexic children, an eight-week program that yielded better reading skills also resulted in increases of grey matter volume in areas associated with language skills and working memory. Of course, reading doesn’t just benefit kids.
A survey of over 4,000 adults found that those who read for pleasure showed more empathy, less stress, and a deeper interest in their own personal development. For example, books inspired 27 percent of readers to find a new job, motivated 36 percent of readers to travel, and spurred 20 percent of readers to take better care of their health…”